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Episode 45 May 04, 2025 55:16 5.1K views

The Best AI Search Engines in 2026

About This Episode

In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, we explore the most advanced AI search engines shaping how we access information in 2026.

Hosts Demetri Panici and Aytekin Tank dive deep into tools like Perplexity, Gemini, Claude, and Maini, highlighting how they outperform traditional search engines by providing streamlined, high-quality research and actionable insights.

From researching competitors to generating sales content, these AI tools are transforming workflows for small businesses and enterprise teams alike.

We also explore how AI search engines offer major advantages in real-time event discovery, news tracking, and personal productivity, even integrating with Google Calendar, Gmail, and Drive.

Plus, hear how AI now handles everything from analyzing images and videos to creating personalized research dashboards and dynamic web content. If you’re ready to reduce your reliance on Google and level up your information gathering in 2026, this episode is a must-listen.
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0:00 - Exploring Gemini Deep Research
1:05 - New Features In Jotform AI Agents
3:46 - AI Agents Replacing Google Search
11:02 - Comparing Intercom Fin And Jotform
18:59 - Perplexity For Automated Deep Research
27:12 - Automating Competitive Research With Make
30:52 - Deep Research In AI-Powered News Discovery
35:05 - Real-Time Event Search With AI
41:01 - Claude’s Web Search And Gmail Integration
48:02 - AI Image Recognition For Location Search
51:50 - Closing Thoughts
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Whenever I I think of an idea, I cannot just like ask someone okay go and just spend a day create a report for me like just you know everyone is busy already. If I'm going to ask that like I really have to think about that like really make sure that but but with Gemini deep research I just you know whenever I I have an idea if I'm curious about like how the entire company is doing how they compare to J from AI agents I'm not going to I don't have to ask someone like just I can just go to Gemini big research and ask it and then in 15 minutes it's just going to create me a great report and I can just read it quickly and uh learn it and be up to case. Hi, my name is Demetri Bonichi and I'm a content

creator, agency owner, and AI enthusiast. You're listening to the AI Agents podcast brought to you by Jot Form and featuring our very own CEO and founder Idkin Tank. This is the show where artificial intelligence meets innovation, productivity, and the tools shaping the future of work. Enjoy the show. Hello and welcome back to another episode of the AI Agents Podcast. How you doing, Adakin? Good. How are you doing? I'm doing great. The product that we've had has been out for a while. You know, Jot Form AI agents, they're on the up and up and there's some new betas and features that have been released recently. I'm curious uh what necessarily they are and you know, we're going to get into a specific episode, but I want to give it a plug. We haven't we don't talk about our own product that much on this show. Um

and I just wanted to ask, so how are you feeling about everything? There's a lot of new features coming out. Yeah, I mean recently we have uh focused more on um not really like releasing new features but making the uh support better. Um the way we did we have been doing that was um basically using it in house for for Jatron's own support and we started with um 30% resolution rate uh and now we are we are we reached like 70% resolution rate and um there there were like two different ways we were able to achieve this um so one of them was actually uh improvements on the LMS actually helped us as well um So for example the when we switch to latest um G open AI 4 um 4.1 that actually made a big difference um so JI 2.5 is coming as well

so the improvements on LMS are making a difference um another one was like uh by improving our our rack system um by our you know the vector database for keeping track of all these you know data about the you know user guides things like that. uh we were able to have also had like you know at least like a 10% increase in the resolution rates just by improving the uh the data uh and then also improving our user guys as well and and the rest of them were actually mostly about actually our team uh improving the JForm AI agent so that it can actually answer questions better and it can actually do like things like uh it can do API calls uh let's say someone actually want someone wants to change their email address, it can actually do an API call and it can actually

do the change right on the chat uh chatbot and we do that by you know we are not just implementing these features we are actually implementing all these features just from AI agent so everyone can can use it um so it's it's just like it's so much fun to be able to use our own product and uh see improvements that way and u that's what we are mostly busy Uh but yeah today we are going to talk about the search uh how AI and AI agents are replacing Google and they are replacing for me uh I I I stopped googling um I stopped googling and I'm actually doing a lot of deep research like just if you think about it most of the time when you're googling for something you actually want that end result But most of the time like instead of just like

googling the end result you will like do like multiple searches like you for example you are going to Google like list of uh let's say you're doing a research about uh check AI chatbots uh and you're just going to Google that and then you will find a list of all these products and then you you will Google those products you will visit their website you will compare them to each other uh so you're going to spend so much time googling like 100 times But like instead of doing that like whatever you're looking for just you can just state it and go to Gemini like go to mainus uh and then just search for those things and you get the final result and I I've been doing that recently a lot and just enjoying it a lot like getting those information in front of me and

uh being able to um just see this end result it just makes it so much uh easier for for me to you know uh make decisions uh research stuff and made a big difference. So that's why we are covering search uh today. Yeah. No absolutely. I I actually had just a bit of an epiphany when you were saying that oftent times you do do deep research for searching things up. So for example, I work from home, right? Um I know you work from home for a fair amount of the time. Um, but I I was looking for like a co-working space to go to and I was googling, googling, googling, googling and it kind of sucked and then I ended up settling on for answers to questions cuz websites themselves for these co-working spaces had bad like location of information. I said, "Can you just

do a deep research on this list of questions, please, for for this co-working space?" And then what ended up happening is I got the information. So, you're right. I think deep research is um is something that definitely um leads to an end result rather than random Googling. And the nice thing is you can do a couple of them at once, right? And you can do something else while you're waiting to get the the answer. You can go clean something, you can eat some food, like anything else. So yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean we started with deep research. Let me share you what I have about deep research. So one of the things is like doing competitor research right Jatform has competitors and um so one of the competitors is intercom fin uh Jatform AI agents competitor and and they recently made some updates so

I was curious about them like I didn't have time to read about their updates but I just went to Gemini uh deep research and then ask like compare just from AI just to intercon So when I said that uh basically what's happening is that um it's it asked me next like you know should I do this like should I you know u just research find out about just from AI agent find out about intercom and then compare specific AI capabilities analyze options intercom integration options tools and should I do you know pricing models subscription tires things like that. it just asked for for my uh uh like feedback and then you know I didn't need change anything so I said start research and it started doing the research and um I think it took about like usually takes about 50 minutes um I can't see

the time uh when it started but um when when I look at the result here that I can actually see that um it's basically started with with introduction basically a summary of its findings and it g gives an overview of different products right you could also do this like if you're deciding which product to buy right you could just ask deep research to compare them both to each other and then give you an answer and then like core philosophy and pro jat from AI just extending form automation with conversation so one of the things that makes Jatform AI just powerful is uh Uh it comes with forms as well like people can actually while talking to chat bots um either by voice or by you know a chatbot on your website um they can actually fill out a form as well during the conversation. So

I think that's like really makes it more powerful things and intercomin AI first customer service resolution. So intercom is like they are actually a customer service platform. So that's that's one thing they know really well. So how to resolve issues. So I think that's what makes them powerful as well. But then here we can see that it started actually comparing all these features as well. Primary use case form interactions data collection workflow automation basic support intercon resolution complex query handling frontline support automation. Um so setup no code builder. um you know J also connects to knowledge base but u guided setup things like that. So basically it's comparing all these different things of the product and if you care about one of them maybe you know if you're deciding these are going to be useful as well. So and then the technology it's talking about

the technology um right um and then it's comparing the technology uh and then it's comparing the all these like um different uh channels we have we support these channels intercom also supports many channels um as well so we are actually very you know uh competing pretty similarly in uh different you know similar stuff um as well. So this is a very true um you know analysis comparing the different uh pricing as well like just form starts with free and all these you know options and then intercom also has um I don't think they have a free plan but they they start uh $29 per se as well. Um yeah so it's even compared to user reviews that's also cool like just looking at G2 reviews trust pilot trust reviews so this is also very useful intercom also has like um you know a lot of

reviews um so yeah I mean this is really good job at the um you know deep of ease of use um so um but I want to show another product which is main so Um I actually tried many products but I settled on both Gemini and Mayus and this is Mayus AIM and uh what makes Mayus different is um it it also it has more tools than a regular deep research product. Uh so for example uh one of the things I always do is like you know the same I say the same thing but then I said create a website comparing all the features of both products to each other and when I said this uh main starts with asking me question like it asked me questions like are there specific features and aspects of AI agents that you would like to focus on? Do

you have profess on website design? Would you like me to introduce any interactive elements and specific deployment methods find the website? So uh because this is only internal I'm just you know minus also has its own like you know hosting service. So it's just free hosting. So it's uh you know I'm not deploying anywhere else. This is for me only. But when it creates a website it's actually like just much nicer. So it it actually did all this stuff and at the end uh it created like these documents but but it also created this website. So I'm going to show the website. So this is just from AI agents versus intercon website. It's comparing. I wish like it could have actually got the logos as well but you know that's fine. And it sometimes does it but this time it missed that. So it actually

um compare the features resolution rates. We actually interestingly uh we are we are we are only um like looking at our own resolution rates just from support uh we don't have it for our users but that one actually started 30% and now we are about we are over 70%. So I guess like this is actually good because now I know intercom actually and also the user resolution rate maybe we should also start doing that and that's something people might be looking for. So the pricing me model is like you know I think they're charging like $1 per resolution which is probably also available here. Okay, $1 per resolution uh and then $29. So it's just um I think it's going to get really expensive in our case uh really much cheaper um because it's already included. Um so and interestingly it even did this pricing

calculator. So if I'm going to get like you know if I will get like let's say thousand conversations let's compare both products. um like let's say I get like thousand conversations per month and then I would like to get um this resolution rate and you're just going to pay only $39 $34 a chat form but then you're going to pay like $600 for intercom in um it gets really expensive when you when if when you're paying like $1 per resolution it gets expensive um so I mean products like intercom uh and like Salesforce, agent force and like Sierra, they are more towards um like enterprise customers and we are we are more towards like you know small businesses um small healthcare uh school uh education nonprofits um so we have different pricing um so it also compared Wow It's you know comparing all the available

platforms. Um so we are actually missing Slack but uh because we have Slack integration it thought that we you could deploy your agents on Slack. Uh but um looks like you know access code is missing on intercom fin. So did a pretty visual gallery comparing different you know screenshots um different screenshots from the website. So this is really nice. Um really good job. Yeah. Um so yeah, I mean even like the questions. So like if you're just you know researching two different products um or you're you're researching you know doing a competitive research about your competitors, this is a great uh way to do that. Uh we are also like a you know with family in July we are visiting London. So I I just said to uh mayus, create a website about best London place for kids. Use lots of pictures because I'm going

to show this to my kids to help them decide like which which shows to go and they prefer to look at the pictures. They don't want to read so much. And uh so it ask again questions like what's the age? So I gave you know 8 and 10. Uh and would you like the website include specific ticket prices? Yes. Do you have any product design? No. Uh would you like any interactive elements? Uh no. I don't want any interactive elements. So it worked another like you know 15 minutes and then it created this site. Uh it even like just use this background. Uh and uh this is nice. I mean I don't care if it stole this picture because this is only for my internal use. I'm only going to look at this. So I don't have to worry about copyrights. I'm not going to

publish this website. U musicals, plays, venues, tips for parents. So, um, so yeah, I'm I'm just going to show this to my kids and then just I will just go and buy the tickets for these and um, you know, the Lion King mater and the pictures are great as well. And like just the durations, things like that. Um, I'm sure they're going to love this. And uh on Android research I also saw like they had um they had like the Minecraft but one possibility is that I actually did I say for this year maybe I maybe it ended I don't know I will I will look for that as well. Um and okay this is perplexity. Um so perplexity is um is also great for research because um and here I'm com like uh I use perplexity just this is regular search and it uses

use sand sources it also shows all these okay Minecraft is here it also shown pictures it's it's it might be even better I don't even have to create a website because it has all the images here. Um, and then this this one is actually I I used the deep research and it took like 20 minutes to create this and it used 64 sources like it visited like 64 different websites and then it uh created this uh amazing research for me and it has all these like um all these um information about them and for my kids, you know, maybe we'll just look at these pictures and then they will say you know we want this um and it looks like this even has like a kid very small kids I also have like a two-year-old so maybe you know uh we'll probably use this as

well um for for our decisions yeah uh so these were about mostly about deep research I know that uh I think you are also using deep research um so um you do you want to continue yeah yeah So, something else really cool uh to call out with deep research is there's a couple different tools that exist. Um, but what I really wanted to call out is the tool that from my perspective is the most interesting. So, for those of you that know, uh, Perplexity is a solid tool. Uh, it is an AI kind of I mean it's mainly known for its research capabilities, right? And what I'm in here is the API documentation actually. And in the API documentation, um you'll see that there's something interesting which is deep research. They not only have deep research, but they actually also have uh reasoning models too.

So if I look up reasoning models um and I'll show you this in in chat sheep and in um OpenAI, but you'll see that unlike other models right now, they have reasoning models, they have deep research, and they have offline. all of which do not really exist on the API for uh most you know if I'm to my understanding all products which is incredible. So literally inside of this uh right here you'll see that if you for any reason need a deep level of research this found seven sources um to you know search from and this is essentially a question that I posited in perplexity inside of this. This is a general question. I just did it for sonar. Um, but if I did deep research, I can posit even deeper questions. Most tools um don't even have Google search capabilities in the API right

now. Um, OpenAI did just release that actually in in like the native model. Uh, there was a video last week about it. But if I right click on this, it's going to be the first model that you'll see that actually does deep research via the API. And there are definite use cases for this. Say, for example, you're doing a weekly roundup or something of news in a certain category and you want it to automatically filter it out. I definitely recommend trying it out. It's it's the only tool that I've seen where it's doing this. And if you need to do deep research on a consistent basis, this is probably the main use case for it. though. Um I I would definitely say news or if you're interested in a subject in general and you just want to keep up to date with something. It doesn't

have to be um you know news for for apps or anything like that. It can be for a specific industry. Um you know maybe you're creating a newsletter for example on a specific industry and you want to utilize the deep research in order to make a newsletter. this could be an option, right? Using Perplexity's deep research to essentially then pump out whatever content it is um or just keep your team up to date with the with the different stuff without them having to parse through all the information. Starting it off with like the deep research module and then putting it through some cleanup is probably the best option. So um it's just going to run here for a minute but yeah just for the audience um so basically you are at make.com Mhm. and uh and you are actually using um using perplexity within your

workflow. Mhm. Um so basically you will be able to do things like you know run this deep research every day and then send me an email and make.com actually makes that possible. Exactly 100%. So now what we see here is the output is pretty extensive, right? Uh that doesn't happen in that doesn't happen use utilizing usual um I I guess just AI tools, right? So you'll see it has essentially these little numbers are like the sources. So, we're up to 11 sources on this guy. And it tells me I was looking for co-working spaces and I'm live in the south loop of Chicago. And after having done all the research this weekend, uh I can confirm this is the stuff in the area and these are good breakdowns. So, um yeah, overall it's it's pretty cool. uh that as as he was as Adakin was

saying if I wanted to I could say hey give me a breakdown of X thing and then I could make another module to maybe clean it up then I could send it via Gmail right send an email to team send a Slack message to team go to notion and add content ideas to um my calendar I mean one idea I have is um Jot form actually has integration with make so whenever someone actually fills out a lead form and research. You can actually find out their company, right? And then you can do a deep research about their company and make it so that it comes up with ideas about how to how they can use your product or services and then um just you know when you are actually getting back to them you will have all that deep research ready you know uh by

the time you see that lead and then you will have all the details about that business you will have all these ideas about how they can use your services. So you could even like you know ask AI to actually write a email for draft an email for you and be ready for Idken. This is being written down as we speak for a idea for my own lead form situation. So so deep yeah that's that's a great idea basically doing deep research on information that's coming in. Um I think for all of us information in business is king. I think um there there's a lot of there's there's something that I I guess I want to note about you know we keep going back to this concept with AI it's just making information more readily accessible and I know people are concerned um with you know

oh is it going to be taking away jobs that sort of thing you know what I'll be honest I think what it's going to do is in a lot of cases like mine or other small businesses we just simply don't have the time or don't have the ability to think in such a way to assign somebody to a task like that. Yeah, we can just automate it real quick, right? like even even at a large company I mean J form is a larger company and like just I cannot just whenever I I think of an idea I cannot just like ask someone okay go and do me a you know uh report like just spend a day create a report for me like just you know everyone is busy already like just if I'm going to ask that like I really have an idea. If

I'm curious about like how the intercom is doing like how they compare to Jatform AI agents, I'm not like just I can just go to Gemini great report and uh I can just read it quickly and learn it and be up to date. Yeah. Yeah. like uh this is this is almost a way in order to create little mini processes that are saving you time on things that you wish you were doing, you know, cuz I I just I think a lot of people misconstrue uh I guess the concept of like what you can do and what you could assign somebody versus what they may necessarily even if you know you're in a business, it's not always the best idea to assign somebody to somebody Because at a certain level, you're going to have to go through the training process. You're going to have to

go through the onboarding process. You're going to have to like scale that onboarding process out. And what ends up happening, I'd say a decent percentage of the time is most companies would just be like, that's not worth the headache for what we're going to get out of it. Whereas you could just automate a little part of it. So it's more value to the consumer, more value to the other companies you're dealing with, um, and not necessarily losing jobs or anything. So that came to mind with that. But all right. So we got through deep research. What's next on the list again? Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about news because um Yeah. Yeah. And it's obviously um research involves uh finding out out about news and I have some examples I can share and um so okay where am I? Okay so um

just to give you an example u I actually use like this time 04 mini. I'm just testing different versions but um they have you know so what's different about these old models is like they have um they actually they have before they they do the um actual querying they actually think about it a little bit and in that case I asked about what products just from launch in 2025 and it thought for like two minutes and user was asking about just from launches so it's it's like it's Google like the side chart from comb blog uh and this um so it's actually googling by the way this is replacing Google but it's also doing Google googling uh and uh I don't know if this googled it or if it actually search with its own search engine yeah the the answer to that question if you

do want to know is that it's a fine-tuned GPT that they connected to Google's API okay so they're it's essentially able to parse through the information better, but it's using the Google API and Google searching and then pumping that information almost like a rag into the LLM and then it's fine-tuned to understand the results from Google search better. That's the answer. So it finds so basically even before giving an answer it's just doing lots of things and um after doing all these things it was able to like give me like you know January Jot form for Canva which actually was really successful like just uh turned out like you know a lot of people wanted to use JF forms uh within their Canva websites nice and um yeah I mean uh so all these integrations AI agents Um but the thing is the thing was

like you know it kind of missed this this is incorrect date it didn't do a really good job on this order even like the order just from AI just from AI for enterprise actually came later so I asked it okay sort them by importance I could have said that in the first prompt but uh basically it's let's see how it's sorted user wants me to importance I will need to think about criteria maybe prioritizing core products or integrations. Yeah, that's a good idea. I will reorder based on the potential impact and so yeah I mean it's just um doing this and then after that it decided J from AI agents is the biggest launch. It still has the wrong date which we released it in February but still uh this was pretty good. Um yeah this is the most important launch we had so far

this year and of course we launched it's enterprise version um right we we launched just for boards kind of like a Trello for your form submission data um and then uh boards for enterprise um just for coma this was the general launch and all the other stuff uh we had this year um yeah so but but then I I I wanted to try different options I'm not I don't really use Grog much, but I I just wanted to try different products. Uh and because I know that it uses um X and X actually has like a lot of information about u events and launches. So I wanted to try it there. So it did a good job even sorted it well J from AI the biggest one. The second one was just for comma and the third one was just for. So it did it

was able to prioritize much better probably because when it looked at all the X posts uh Twitter posts about them it discovered that you know bigger bigger product launches bigger products actually had bigger impact uh more tweets and or X whatever it's called on X now uh we called it tweets tweets before uh so you can keep calling it tweets it's still called tweets yeah And um I tried Propacity. That's um and basically it it actually I think I I like this better because it uh perplexity uses images like it integrates images within the search and I really like to look at the pictures, right? Jot Forms launches. Okay, I can see the pictures what was launched uh different things, right? This is cool. and um and it actually did a good job in the prioritization the biggest one just from AI agents uh just

from boards well uh this workflows was in 2024 and it actually said that it was in 2024 but pro in 2025 interesting um and it kind it missed the kwa u but um yeah it's it's still pretty good um and I And this is this is more about events, but I also wanted to like like how how they do like um and there's no way to kind of do this search today with Google, right? If you try to find out what's going to happen next week in Chicago, right? Uh you're in Chicago. That's why I search for it to help you uh get out there more in front, you know, get instead of sitting in front of the computer all weekend. Okay. uh what's happening in you cannot Google this right it's just it's very hard to google this because you will find all these

unnecessary unrelated and different days but this actually did a uh uh better job um and just found all these different like main tree so it uses dates um this one is for later maybe this not this weekend but uh it actually found a list of all these like concerts s and theaters and uh you know comedy stuff like that. Uh also use group and uh because maybe people tweet about you know different things. So, looks like there's a film festival. Uh there's a spring flower show show um and theater and music and uh so Brock actually did a really good job the event part but Perplexity um also did a good job uh by you know um you can also look at the images to see you know of all these different events and and different um it divided them But I feel like uh

Grog actually did the best job here. And if you think about like the being current and being like talking about today uh it's all about like just you know tweet Twitter like whenever something big happens right you just go to uh X and just because people are instantly tweeting and you can find out more information about it. So this in this in the events like in in the uh current time or uh you know next weekend or things like that I feel like uh Gro actually did a better job here. Um, so I also asked about like the playoffs like NBA playoffs and the best one was actually uh perplexity because wow it's it actually shows it so well like look at this like you can actually see all the recent games and it even has the logos. So I feel like they actually like

designed this because also people are asking these kind of questions. So like this one also doesn't have like a comparison like you cannot Google this like you cannot Google what's the latest news about NBA playoffs you can go to Google news and but you'll find all these random stuff you are not going to like have this report see all the recent games hopefully uh I mean we will publish this later so we we are not going to anybody is like watching the games later. Yeah. Yeah. And uh a notable story involves Timberwolves Lakers series. So this is actually Yeah, that was a good uh you know the Anthony Edwards is like doing really great stuff there. But uh Lakers are uh right uh winning 3 to1. They're on the brink of elimination. No, they're they're they're down 3 to1. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're down 3

to1. I I I confused it with the Denver um Denver stuff. them is down 3 to one. Yeah. Yeah. And um so this they did a great job like I mean you can click on each one and then uh you know read about it retry something went wrong. Anyways um Grog uh gave like the talked about like the most notable stuff and again like there is probably using all these like Twitter data to be able to like prioritize importance. So that's also important especially when things are happening very fast like just it's important to uh even showing like the next games. So that's also very cool and um and yeah these are these are mostly about the uh recent events. Um and yeah do you do you want to talk about that bit? Yeah wait uh one more one one thing I wanted to talk

about real quick. Um, regarding the news, uh, you you called it out and I do think it's fair to point out the only AI that Google really has, um, is this like AI overview. Yeah. Which is like you mentioned, still not great. Um, like Google has a bunch of previously what it would be before the AI overview, which by the way, just to point out, it's not even a bulleted list. It's a par one paragraph, which is weird and I don't really understand that. But secondarily, there's an ad, which is obviously annoying. We've had these for a while. And then there is you click on Chicago events, for example, and then there's just a think a list of things to scroll through. And I'm not I'm not pleased with this mainly for the fact that like I don't feel like this ever gives me proper

list and order. know the most important thing. Yeah, exactly. It's just it's just like a timeline and then you know you look up what's the latest news about the NBA playoffs and with all due respect to the to Google it's actually pretty depressing that they haven't figured out when you Google something like this what you actually want is this I don't this is a nice layout but for some reason when you Google you'd think it would just be like by default and what I do a lot and I used to only Google things, but I use the ESPN app now as I used to Google like uh you know Jason Tatum, right, for example, or I spelled his name wrong. Now this is his averages. Okay, that's fine. But like I want to see this more towards the top. Like obviously I don't really care

about I don't know. It's just they don't have I don't think they personally have like looking up news that great in my opinion. and you called that out. But but yeah, I think it's kind of it's kind of frustrating when they when when they've had the capability for so long and I think what they've essentially done is they've crowded this like the funny part to me which is I look up Jason Tatum. Okay, why is for all intents and purposes only the left hand side used? You know, you think about it on a Google search with this with this situation. I'm getting this snippet of Tatum. Like, how about over here? If I look up NBA news, you could literally have the same results except put the scoreboard over here, man. Like, come on. Like, it's obvious. It's so obvious. One or the other. That's

my Or put the news over here of the scoreboard. It's a weird I just don't think I think they've actually not done anything to kind of improve in a while. So, that that's just my complaint. But anyways, now we're talking about news. Yeah, I I feel like Perplexity, they actually designed that page really well and um just just for the game stuff and um I guess you know Google could have done something similar. Um yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That's that's my main frustration. I think I think it's a solid product. Obviously Google's always been good, but I just I just don't feel like they've done that much. So, speaking of a product that has done pretty well, um I know we already talked about deep research, uh but this and now we're getting into web search. So, this one is is a good one. So, this

is essentially a a news option that I think is great. So, Claude has been around for a while and they have managed to add a lot of really good components. One of them being web search. Now, this is powered by Brave. Are you familiar with Brave? Yeah. So, Brave is um essentially they try to claim to be like one of those like unbiased search engines is how they claim to be. So, we can look up news. Um, as you can see, these are the search results for like what are the the news updates for um clawed AI and open AAI and it gave us results like recent cloud AI updates include in February 2.7 was released. In April, Anthropic launched the Google Workspace integrations allowing users to read Gmail emails and access calendar invites. Anthropic also has a new subscription called Max. This is very

similar to the chat GPT plan. Um they also have JavaScript capabilities for their coding sandbox. And then you know this is talking about uh recent updates with OpenAI which we talked about 4.1 which is only available through the API. So they they did do a good job of this and I guess I am going to show another example though because you can add web search with extended thinking. This just allows it to think longer on the specific question. So if you said a more specific question like um what are the new capabilities of 03 mini and o sorry 03 and mini. These are the two new open AAI tools that are out. Um I've been messing around with them a lot. Obviously, you've been messing around with them amount at there's some confusion. Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry about that. There we go. So, OpenAI

describes 03 as its most advanced model ever. The ability to think with images. We'll show that in a second here. Um, support for advanced features like function calling. That's a very good thing. Um, we should probably do an episode on MCPS, by the way. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but they're talking about this a lot. And Claude has MV MCPS, but also OpenAI is doing that now too with the function calling. So like 03, it can be used to combine all the tools available in CHBT, including web browsing, image generation, etc. So as you can see, this gives a nice breakdown of the news. It's very succinct, I would say. Um, by default, this tool I would honestly say is the most succinct and naturally human sounding AI right now. I don't know how much experience you have with Claude, but Claude

sounds the most human. Yeah. Um I also showed that saw that there was even like a Gmail different types of searches there and that's very interesting that you are able to like search to your drive or Gmail with within cloud. Yeah, let's let's do a little check like of what what time is my call with ID today. I'm curious if it's going to work. I'll check your calendar. Searching for events. Interesting. So, it's actually like literally searching the Google. I found your good. Huh. Wow. You figured that out based off the name, right? So, we did start meeting at 8 and 9:30. So, that's that's an interesting situation. Um. Wow. Wow. If you think about it like you know uh it it indexed your Gmail it it can search your Gmail it can search your calendar uh and it has a voice mode as well

right cloud has a voice mode I I usually use chat but if and while you're driving you could just uh you know search your Gmail or like just search your calendar and ask for stuff. So that's pretty cool. So, there's another tool that I work with. Um, it's like a notion AI adjacent tool. And I think there's an unread email I have in there about updates to the app. It's like an it's like this newsletter, right? So, I'm curious if it's going to be able to find I found several recent emails with notice. Oh. Oh. Uhhuh. You know what? That's funny because Florian is the person who I work with, right? and I mentioned it and it's actually figuring out that he accepted my meetings, declining the meetings and then yes, that that email that I just showed here was found as well. So, very

cool. Yeah, I really like this. This is this is incredible. And then Google Drive. Okay, what about Google Drive? No, look um what is uh where is my discovery call sales deck? Oh, this is crazy. Wait, what if I can't find a uh a file inside of Google Drive? And this is the solution. Yeah. Okay. So, now when it can't find it, it keeps trying to find it. Okay. You You're going to anger the Google Gods. The Google gods are going to Yeah. Oh, you weren't able to find it. No. Okay. Keep finding. Come on. Come on. Come on. Nah, you stink. Okay. Interesting. So, I guess this I would imagine this one's probably going to be the hardest one to do because you probably got to get the name similarly right. So, um Google Drive search is really hard by the way. Like I

just I cannot find stuff in like Google is supposed to be the you know the the you know the search god but uh I really cannot find stuff in Google Drive. Yeah. is the rise productive discovery call. And what I'm curious about is if it doesn't know where it is because I didn't create it. A lot of times sometimes if you didn't create it, these tools don't work with Google Drive. I I laugh when Gmail and when Google Drive are bad at this because I'm like, aren't you like the search company? Like you didn't code the how what did you how did what were you doing? Um, so obviously this is this is one of the last things, but what um where where are we closing on the list? We're I think we're actually getting to the end here. For example, if you search for

like a full name for someone like it's just going to bring uh every person with that first name and every person with that last name and then all the documents that has those like you know first names or last names. So just uh and then the order is like just very hard to fix as well. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But before you know we add it um uh just I have another one um Yep. Um just location search right. This is uh so for is really cool and um so one of the things you can do is like if you have pictures um you can actually uh right you can actually search those pictures and just just as an example I picked up this one. So this is our like our news center actually has always has these like videos YouTube videos. Uh I picked up

this thumbnail from that and then asked is it like where are they located and the answer is um yeah it was able to actually find where this is located like this is our office San Francisco office uh basically um and you can see the Bay Bridge and like even though it's Bluru it can see the Bay Bridge and then the ferry building uh location and uh so That's actually pretty good. But it had to think about it for 2 minutes. Um doing the an analysis doing finding like zooming. Basically, one of the things it does is like it zooms in different things to find uh and just it's like thinking so much like just doing so many things. It's really cool like just really cool to see what it thinks like I mean in the past like you when you ask questions like that uh

it would just hallucinate or just fail but now it's just trying like it tried for 2 minutes to discover this and even though there was this blurry stuff uh it was able to look at the s8 and you know analyze the image and discover where it is. Um, so and then I asked like who who are they? But uh I guess maybe maybe it doesn't want to find like give names or something. Maybe it's just for security privacy purposes but but it actually gave me information about like the Jon branded polo shirts and um yeah I don't have their names to share it said. Um um so and they just you know location search you could just ask things like you know just like you would go to Google ask for location of chat for it can give you addresses and just you know you

know all the other office spaces and addresses and it's thinking about this and just looking at all these websites uh and this is really cool um yeah I mean it's just there's no reason to go to Google you have like the AI tools have all these information and just um whatever you have in your mind you which just Oh, okay. You you were talking about this before we Yeah, I have a similar one here, too. It's um in my opinion, pretty impressive. Like we have this is just a picture like of the ceiling of a church. I This is not a very detailed picture in my opinion. It's not much of anything. And it did the same thing. It like zoomed in, it analyzed, it looked up pictures, it zoomed in on different parts, it zoomed in on different parts. It took a while. I

mean 6 minutes but then it figured out properly it's like this is St. This is St. Mary's um yeah St. Mary of the Angel's Church. Yeah. In Bucktown Chicago. That's true. Like that is where I went right. So I went there and I I see this and I'm like well I guess uh privacy's over you know that I was like oh well that's done. Uh people want to know where you were. I find that that that was the funny thing. I showed this to a lot of people. You were pretty excited about it. Everyone who wasn't like in the tech space immediately went to, "Oh, well, I guess my privacy is over." I was like, "Yeah, it's been over. Don't worry about that." Yeah. I mean, uh I think this is great. Like I I have been on a Google diet for a while. Like

whenever I need to Google something, I don't go to Google. I will just go to Chetchip. Gemini. Gemini is also Google but main perplexity and products like that and just uh just I find the find like I get much better results not because like you know Google Google when I Google I also get good results sometimes but the thing is like these tools actually do the work for me like they do the work and they bring me so much value because they seem so much time and I think it's just it's over for Google now and I mean it only lost like five to 10% uh to ch on market share but I think it's just going to increase a lot in the coming uh months and years but the thing is uh uh it's not fully over because they have Gemini and Gemini is

really good and when I do deep research Gemini brings me like you know the best results as well. So the only thing like Google needs to do is like do that fix that AI only stuff and just uh make it better uh really give what people need and um then you know um it's it's going to be hard for the uh many like people who depends on search engine traffic. So that's that's that's some some other topic for another day I guess. But uh but we're also seeing our you know chip s like uh referrals uh increasing like just ch is also bringing lots of traffic. You mean like from your source you like source? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah I think it's uh it's like it's a big shift. It's like I I remember the like like like around the time like 1999 1998

around that time like searching internet was really hard and and like and then Google came out and then became so much easier to search the web and find stuff and it it's it's a similar shift right now happening and AIS kind of they are replacing Google at this uh you know at the search and they're not just replacing Google with uh something very similar to Google they're actually replacing Google with something much better um just giving you like the full answer and details so I think it's pretty cool agreed all right well with that being said thank you so much for spending some time with us here today thank you for all the support leave us a review on Apple Podcast, Spotify, and a like and comment on YouTube. Thank you so much for watching, and we'll see you in the next one. Bye. We'll

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