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Episode 37 Apr 15, 2025 46:25 5.9K views

The Best AI Image Generators in 2026

About This Episode

Discover the top AI image generators redefining design in 2026 in this episode of the AI Agents Podcast.

Demetri Panici and Aytekin dive into the most powerful tools shaping creative workflows—from ChatGPT-4's groundbreaking omni-model capabilities to heavyweights like MidJourney, Leonardo AI, Canva, Firefly, and more.

Learn how AI is empowering designers to be more productive, creative, and efficient, without replacing their unique human touch or artistic sense.

Whether you're a content creator, graphic designer, or entrepreneur, this episode unpacks how AI-generated visuals are transforming web design, logos, infographics, and marketing assets.

Find out which tools lead the pack, which still have room for growth, and why the future of design lies in close collaboration between humans and artificial intelligence.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:08 - Designing With AI Image Generators
5:51 - Starting With ChatGPT-4o Image Generator
12:43 - Prompting ChatGPT For Visual Assets
18:00 - ChatGPT’s Text And Design Combo Power
22:23 - Gemini Advanced
23:50 - Ideogram
25:15 - Midjourney
26:20 - Canva Magic Media
27:05 - Adobe Firefly
27:44 - Leonardo.AI
30:08 - The Rise Of Omni Models
36:10 - Design Editing Limitations And Future Possibilities
42:03 - Human Creativity Meets AI Tools
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I don't think designers are going to lose their jobs. I feel like it's completely reversed. It's actually designers are going to be so much more valuable. Like if you think about it, two important things are important for designers, right? Uh their creativity or their taste like you know and how well they use the you know the the the products they use to make designs, right? But with the help of AI, it's just creativity becomes easier. But more importantly, they probably don't even need to use like the tools. Like they can just talk to AI and to generate images. So this means like they can be 10 times more productive. Hi, my name is Demetri Bonichi and I'm a content creator, agency owner, and AI enthusiast. You're listening to the AI Agents podcast brought to you by Jot Form and featuring our very own CEO and

founder Idkin Tank. This is the show where artificial intelligence meets innovation, productivity, and the tools shaping the future of work. Enjoy the show. Hey there and welcome back to another episode of the AI agents podcast. In this episode, Adakin and I are going to dive into the top AI image generators in 2025. How you doing, Adakin? I'm doing great. Uh we are continue to work on the AI agents and um so we are actually planning to we are working on a new AI agent. uh we call it the presentation AI agent. So it's a basically presenter and uh and you know you can it can do presentations over zoom or you can embed it on your website or you can link to it. Um so while I was thinking about like this new product we're going to be launching next month. I've been thinking about

like you know you know doing a logo or doing a design uh you know web page design for it and I've been you know playing with all these different image generator to to see how well they do and um also just I think it was just yesterday um Shopify CEO uh talked about how they are going to be using AI for everything from now on and you know he he even all this like team that you know don't come for me for for new headcon like you know the hiring new employees before you tried it with AI and then he actually had this memo that says like you know we should be using AI for everything because we are going to become much more productive and uh we can do so much more with AI saw that yeah and and that's why I've been thinking

about how AI is going to be so important for design because it's just get it's it just keeps getting better and better and I I think it's like it's not going to I don't think um designers are going to lose their jobs. I feel I feel like it's completely reverse. It's actually designers are going to be so much more valuable. Like if you think about it, a designer um has like two things like two important things are important for designers, right? uh their creativity or their taste like you know uh and how well they use the you know the the the products they use to make designs right but with the help of AI it's just creativity becomes easier but more importantly they probably don't even need to use like the tools like they can just talk to AI and to generate images so this

means like they can be 10 times more productive they can become much more productive they can become much faster and create uh more beautiful designs, provide more options, try more things. So they're going to become much more valuable and we are going to see this explosion of you know beautiful designs uh and it's just going to democratize design for everyone like you know good designers they're going to become much more productive they're going to do much better things but people who cannot even hire designers they're going to be able to like do designs on their own so you know instead of doing something ugly they will have some baseline you know they will use AI, but I don't think they're going to be as good as like good designers because good designers have tastes like they they know what's beautiful. They know what makes sense.

So, they can actually start with a reference and reference design and then they they can start from there and then they can shape the design and we're going to talk about all those things. Uh so I've been thinking about all those all those things that's why you know today we are doing an episode about the image generators uh AI image generators. Absolutely. I think that's a that's a good call out. Right. I'm I'm in the I'm in the camp of saying this is going to make more people interested probably in graphic design because they're going to have so much more easy access to it. Uh and more people could essentially be graphic designers. I don't know what it'll I I always I always hold out a little I don't know what the word is. I I hold out what will happen uh regarding like industries,

jobs, and that kind of stuff. I think I think there'll be a lot of benefits overall and we'll we'll dive into we'll dive into it in this episode. But as always, I think it comes back to small businesses being able to do things that they weren't able to do prior to the adventation of AI. So, I'm really excited about uh diving into it. What What one are we getting started with, Heidi? Um I mean currently the best one like we are just going to start with the best one like just like you don't you don't have to watch the rest of the episode just you know just watch what's what what Jes can do and that's pretty much blows away everything else. So we are going to absolutely I'm just going to start with what I have done with that. Uh but um so FORO

is like an omni omni model which means like like all the other models um they're basically like LLMs they are basically text based models that are you know that also know how to do design like they they first uh think in in terms of text and then they turn that into a design but what what's different about photoro for Omni or CHP4 is it's basically on the model which means it was actually trained with uh like you know sounds voice um you know text video you know um pictures and everything like you know web designs. So it basically knows everything and what makes it so powerful is it it can actually do text well like all the other models like they can generate all these images but the text is all garble up and it's just it's not meaningful but when you when you tell

for to create a web page design mock it will actually even put the like it will think about the what what kind of text it to create and it will put it in the right ways. So it works so well. So before before I you know talk more let me show you basically uh I wanted to create a uh basically a you know because we are you know I've been talking about this presentation agent we are going to release next month. I wanted to create some logo and some like uh designs for it. So one of the things you can do when you're actually prompting uh ch4 is you can actually uh like add reference pictures like you can uh basically this this one actually I added this I I discovered this logo like just while I was playing with another tool actually so it

actually came from the Leonardo.ai. Um but I want to you I really like this logo. So I wanted to use this logo but I also wanted to give it a reference image. So basically what I did was I took a screenshot of Jatron AI agents and I prompted it say you know use the style shown on a website screenshot and use the microphone icon in the logo. So basically this is my pro this is it like this is all the prompt I have for the logo. So it basically recreated the same logo which is fine. Uh and you know it looks beautiful. And then the next step for me was to what if if I can create like a website design like a mock for the website. So in this case like I I had you know a longer prompt um create a website design

for a new product called presentation AI agent. Use the new logo you have just created on it. uh and here is similar design to this like you can also reference uh using a URL as well with for and then you know similar color scheme typography uh level of illustration details and then you know just uh like I provided some information about this um by the way I had to upgrade pro because I was just promp like creating so many images uh so I I was on actually on the plus plan and then I had to like at some point like I think it was about like 20 image I generated I don't know if it's based on that or based on the token tokens it used um that it said like you know now it has to wait uh like 10 minutes between every image.

So once it said that I decide okay you know I'm not going to wait because you know we have an episode coming up recording so I have to I upgraded to the propan uh which is $200 which is pretty expensive. I was on the $20 plan. Uh maybe I will go downgrade because I don't create this many images. But basically, if you're going to like if you're a designer who is like doing this full-time, like constantly creating images, if you don't want to get stuck in the limit, you will have to upgrade to the pro the $200 plan. Um yeah. So, uh basically this is my problem. I also gave like little bit of information about it. So, the first image it created wasn't that great. The problem was like the logo was here but it was cut off and the main problem was in

my prompt I actually didn't define like you know the size of the image I wanted and it had uh this problem with the um you know the uh the head uh the headline so it was cut cut off like this here I don't like some of the text here so what I did was you know I just uh prompted it and I said like just gave it a list of all the problems I see. User logo created in previous instead of the uh like current one it actually created a new one here. uh which is actually good like I told it like the D is broken here and uh basically and then I gave a width to it so it can actually create a larger image and like made some improvement in the text and then uh and then I asked it to like just

add additional like uh section here at the bottom and it was perfect like um right it created this one. So basically this one uh basically it has a logo right it has a button here like it you know change the change the uh you know stuff here uh like just the D was fixed it added these actions I mean I can continue I can you know I can basically continue creating this mark and I can also I didn't actually try that because we are about the image but I can just tell it like turn this into a web page And it will probably be able to also do that like just cut it cut into small pieces and turn it into an HTML page. Um and but basically at this point my goal is to like just uh keep keep improving this uh design like

just give it feedback just like I would give a feedback to a designer like just you know change this improve this things like that. So this was amazing actually. I was really impressed with that. So I prompted it to create a banner ad and it was like perfect the first time like just this image it created this banner ad that I could just use anywhere and it's perfect. I loved it like just no mistakes or anything like that. So I want next I wanted to create this YouTube thumbnail. Basically it was cut off. It had some problems but you know I edited this like you can see like five times I made small changes like gave it I had to like Google like what's the thumbnail size for YouTube thumbnails things like that but is able to get it almost right uh but you know

I gave another prompt to actually solve this like this no spacing here and then I wanted to get rid of this as well. Basically, I gave that feedback and it was able to fix the spacing here and I also told it to here's really nice use the realistic human character instead of illustration and suddenly I went from this to a real picture which is very similar to the like even the t-shirt is very similar to the you know the uh this is also AI generated but it will be able to take this and really create a character very similar to it and I thought I thought this was very cluttered like and basically I didn't even have to like open it in like there's actually you know when you have this like you can actually open it in like uh you can select uh stuff

like this and do stuff like this and say change this stuff I didn't even have to do that like just said please get rid of the bugs in the image just it understood like which bug I was talking about it actually recreated the image but it was actually still pretty good uh So this is something we could use you know when we launch the presentation AI agent we can just use uh on our thumbnail for the video. So yeah this was uh very impressive um the um yeah chip photo was really impressive. I know that you you have also you know uh did some stuff with chip pro probably so maybe you want to share your experience. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So, for for I think the showcases that you had are really really useful, good insights. My main thoughts when this came out for

text as a content creator were like infographics and different designs that are text intensive, I thought were going to have like massive um improvements and implications. So, what I did, and I could have done a lot better at this, all I literally did was ask for a breakdown between Notion and To-Doist. I just did a Google search, right? And then after that, I said based on the text below, which was the comparisons, which is too much information. I could have made this shorter. I told it to create an infographic that sums up the differences between these tools, and it made it. And this is very general, obviously, and it was cut off because I put too much stuff on there. I get that. But this is just a showcase of wow. I mean, it gets text absolutely correct, which has never been the case. Not

even close. So, I said to myself, you know what? Wait a second. I want to make it look like I like Simon Hoyberg's work on LinkedIn a lot. Mhm. I told it to make it look like it. Wow. Beautiful. And this is this looks like something I could have a graphic designer make, right? Like it looks like an infographic I'd put on LinkedIn. And it got me thinking more, you know, like this. Is it possible for us to take the text that we generate from chat GPT, right? And then turned it into infographics. And then not only that, but you know, we have what I think is incredible here. It found the logos and it put the logos on here for these apps. Uh, I mean, we're working in a world where, okay, I work in apps. I do a lot of different things. So,

let me look up the thumbnail example that I made. I said, "Wait a second. If I if I do image generation for my YouTube channel, uh, or if I do something like this, what if I told it to just showcase a wide variety of different app logos floating in an office setting? Imagine me putting myself inside of this photo, right? And this is what we're talking about with augmented graphic design. Sure, I'm still going to have to put myself in there because I tried doing personal images of myself and it didn't look great. And just imagine me downloading this and then taking it and then putting a picture of myself in there like, you know, like looking around. That's a similar that's a common YouTube thumbnail. It's just these little things that you now can do where you can generate little things here and there

that can augment what you would otherwise manually have to create all of those logos in Photoshop and blur them out and put it in certain spots. I mean, to me, this is essentially a thumbnail that's improved that saved I don't know what percentage of time, but uh I mean, a couple hours. I mean, doing something like this in Photoshop could take you like an hour, two hours of work, right, to have it floating like that and and and whatnot. So, it's pretty incredible. And as a content creator, I I I know they don't have this available in the API now, but when they get this available in the API and they switch from the Dalai model that's in the API is going to be a gamecher. And I know AI loves to use the term gamecher, but in all and actually it will be a

game changer. We'll be able to generate carousels based off of text ideas that we have for social media posts. We'll be able to generate infographics for blogs that are relevant to the copy. We'll be able to do a lot and uh that that's what I think is going to be the biggest use case of this platform because of its text capabilities um and just its general creativity that I think is is pretty outstanding. Yeah, agreed. Um, so it's um I'm I'm pretty sure the API part is pro going to come soon as well. Yeah, they said so. And just what really makes it so powerful is how good it is with text like it can understand the like the fonts of the uh like and um so like another thing is like the how good it is with using the reference images, right? uh in

your case you also use a reference image. I used uh a website design you use another infographic and it can actually take understand that reference image like really even understand the fonts like the typography in that in that image and they use similar fonts as well. So it just like uh it makes it so easy to create something consistent and I think that's like the one of the biggest problems like if you are not really good at design uh maybe you can create something but it's not going to look consistent with other things but in this case like um there's also like you know you can just draw something on a paper take a picture of it just show it to your camera or um and then just it will be able to like turn create an image based on that. Uh, it understand it

as well. So, it's very powerful. Yeah, absolutely. No, I I think you're you're spot on there. It's it's really weird seeing this improve so much so quickly, though. I don't know about you, but I'm like remember when they didn't even have the ability to like what's the word I'm looking for? I mean, this this was essentially a product that when it first came out, you asked it to write any text and it was like hieroglyphs. I don't know if you recall, but it was like hieroglyphic weird image like with with like squiggly lines and I was looking I felt like I was looking at like um Egyptian scrolls. Uh, and then now you can create an image on some of someone on a street looking at a fake sign that tells them to to only park between the hours of uh 7:00 a.m. to 7:00

p.m. on a certain street. Like it's it's just crazy how much these have improved. And like I tried to use the image generators in the past uh and the the the the biggest problem I had was like you know it generates something but then there's something small very small you want to change right and you tell it okay just change this and then it will just regenerate the whole image and it's not going to be able to just change that and um and like it it maybe it will fix it but it will create other problems right it's just you kept playing like that for hours and hours uh to be able to hit something right and then even if you hit something right like you cannot just um add on it like you cannot just improve on it. It just uh but in this

case like whatever you have like you can always improve on on it and you can always use it as a reference to continue on it later. Um so it's really impressive. Um yeah absolutely agreed. Um I can go ahead and you know uh show the other ones um right uh how the others are doing. Um let's continue with Gemini. So Gemini 2.5 Pro is actually also pretty good. Um and it can also use reference images. So in this case you know um I I gave this this image and then you know I asked it to create an image with the same uh like reference image. Uh it was able to create this logo. It's it's pretty good. U right so so then again you know I asked it to this time create a web page. um it wasn't able to like really understand this web

page and create one uh that's similar. So, and when I tried to change these like you know instead of using these characters use something like photo realistic like this um it wasn't able to do that. It kept saying like I'm not going to able to help you and then the YouTube thumbnails also I wasn't very you know uh very impressed with that. U fair enough. So you know it can use reference images but I think it's still uh it still have some way to go. Um so this is Gemini 2.5 Pro. I think it's going to get better. So this is I think this is the first model they have this much of capabilities. Uh so it's going to get better. Um another one I looked is uh ideoggram. Um, looks like it has, you know, a lot of cool stuff here and um, basically

it was able to create some really good looking um, um, logos for me and um, and I also tried with the web page. It was able to also create these web pages. Um, the only thing is like you know I didn't have like you know I really like these, right? But then once you have that um how do you go from here? Start with this and then keep improving on it. Uh I wasn't able to figure that out. Um so maybe it can but uh right. Um so I I should select this but it's going to a different one. Um yeah. Uh so you know it uh it has some problems with the uh fonts as like the um text as well. Yeah. And this one looks pretty good. Transform your presentations with AI. Good good title uh but still linking to the wrong one

for some reason. Um but with the logos it has some good stuff. Um another one I looked is u Midjourney. um journey like it's this is a big one. This is a big one. Yeah, it seems to be really good with like image generation. Uh usually examples are mostly about the images as well. Um right. Um so first I started with the logo. It created some you know good-looking logos uh but still has it has some problems with uh presentation uh with text. So it's it's more optimized for images and and when I asked you to like create mockup uh like you know the design web design it just shows it in a weird sideways way. I wasn't able to find a way to improve this this look and it's very illustrative. Um, so I guess this is more useful if you need like a

stock uh if you need like stock photography, if you need to create like a photography to use on your website. This going to create some amazing stuff. And I looked at Canva Magic Media um to you know come up with stuff and I it's it's creating some cool looking images uh right but um it's still like you know it's just a single prompt and generate again like you cannot like start with something and then like keep working on that like just it can create something you know you can start with that and after that you probably need to edit it yourself. So it's unlike the you know the the chip photo you cannot just prompt it to do something else like um keep going and Adobe Firefly. Uh this one also looks amazing. Uh it's creating these all these you know amazing looking illustrations photography

and um this one um also created some you know illustration it's actually very illustration oriented um and but it has also problems with text as well um so if you need to create like illustrations probably you know Firefly is the way to go because yeah, it's it can create really cool stuff and and Leonarda.ai. Um, and this one um what I really liked was the it actually created the the uh the best uh logo for me. This one it created this logo and because it's very clean uh logo uh it seems to be doing pretty well with text compared to others. Um and uh just uh this one I really liked it so much that I actually like I went back to Chip and gave it this logo and told it to use this logo and it was able to use that logo. So that's

also cool. So sometimes like you maybe you know you want you want to get creative use different tools and uh when I prompted to create like different websites it actually had like some really good uh looking websites but I wasn't able to like do photo realistic ones but um it was able to do some really cool looking uh illustrative um um uh web pages web page designs. It's weird what's happening with the language. Yeah, it's just it's pretty cool. It was it's switching between like English and then Spanish, I think. And then something else, too. Yeah. So, my understanding is that uh it's basically because these models don't really understand uh like the language and the text. They're also just like they're creating like designs like illustrations. They're just creating text as well. And that's why just they just hall so much. But because for

for is an only model because it was already trained with all the both with the text and the voice and the images and the videos and everything. It actually does a really good job joining them together because when it needs to use text, it can it doesn't have to use the uh you know the the graphic like the the um the illustration or the graphics to generate text. it can actually generate the text using the text based uh part of the model and then it can join them together really well. Um so I don't know how they did it but they did it. Uh it's an amazing product and it's like a biggest winner today. If you need to use uh if you need to generate images for is the way to go and but they they just came out. So my guess is that

everyone is else is also working on that like their own omni models. So this is going to be this is going to be you know good for everyone like the all the other uh you know the AI companies companies are going to be producing uh releasing their own omni channels and so this is going to be good for everyone and and you know this is going to and we just looked at the image side right the omni channel is also great for voice video and everything else so maybe you know in the next episodes we can also look into those kind of things as well. But uh this is this is a like a big moment like this is a big milestone I think like now the image generation is became uh so easy so good that a designer like instead of using Figma or

Photoshop or whatever they are using they can just use prompts to do their designs and productive and um so this is a inter interesting interesting times to be alive. Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally agree. I And the the cool thing about this is that every time I feel like we're getting to the point where, oh wow, this is like the big breakthrough. It's like the tip of the iceberg, you know. So next year I can imagine a world in where we have hyper realistic hypereditable real time capabilities for not only these chat GBT apps etc but also for tools like you mentioned Firefly right so I I've been seeing this on the image and the video side that Adobee's implementing these little AI tricks here and there and you can actually do filledin generation of different photos nowadays uh in Adobe movie, which is really

cool. So, what they're doing is they're not only doing image generation, which is obviously what this episode is about, but they're going to start adding different AI just tweaking tools, right? Like AI tools that have the ability to um not only create but tweak like there there is uh something called vectors. I don't know if do you know what that term means? Um in photos. Um so ve not in photos. I know that vector uh images are like kind of um allow you to become like uh use those images um in different ways like you know different sizes like SVGs things like that but I'm not sure what it means in terms of photography. Yeah. Yeah. So how it works is essentially you can vectorize um AI photos. Mhm. And that means you can take the different components of these different uh tools or sorry

different uh items that were created and you can literally I'll pull it up for you in a sec. Um you can literally take the different components of an image. So let's say for example I want to just grab this one right here. Yeah. So like for example in Chachi BT you know when I press select and say change this to the notion logo it's going to be a different experience when you're going to be able to do this inside of all of these images. I'd imagine at some point they're just they're going to change it from it being like a flattened what's called a flattened PNG or an SVG or file or whatever and they're going to allow it to be a like a vectorzed file where you can essentially edit the components in your own uh file editor so that it's a starting point

and then you can make tweaks rather than needing to go through this process cuz it's not arduous telling it to change it but the fact that it's taking as long as it's taking even now like I could have just flip-flopped it with a notion um logo in like 5 seconds or whatever. It's just now, you know, it's going to take a couple minutes and obviously the speed on this is the main concern for like the chatbt one. However, it is the best of them. So, I'm not going to not going to give them too much flak for that. It's one of those things where I think you will need to upgrade plus or something like just to get get more speed. Uh well, no, I have I have Yeah, I have the team plan. I have the team plan. This must be the pro plan

that's getting the Yeah, pro seems to be much faster and without limits. Well, $200 a month is that's that that'll get you that'll get you some of the way there, I guess. Um I I've been wondering whether that plan is going to be worth the money for a while, but I guess from a speed standpoint, it might be. But point being, this is a product that has produced flat images. And I'm just very I'm just trying to point this out as a as a content creator. Having the ability to edit the components of the image directly after downloading it, I think will be something they'll add at some point. And that's when you'll see an explosion in creativity. How about we do this experiment, live experiment for our audience because I now have the prop plan. I'm going to take over the screen and then

I will see if I if it will work much faster. So I will try to do just uh I will just say something like okay add jatform logo here. Let's see if it's going to make a difference. Let's compare the pro speed and nonpro speed. How is yours going? Is it um mine just finished? Finished. Oh, okay. Okay. I will I will Why don't we switch back to you? Well, it didn't work is the sad part. It actually messed up. It actually messed up. Um it it I said make I said make this notion and it and it actually totally messed it up. So, we're still at the point where these things do mess up. Just FYI, we did we did say how amazing it is and I probably did make this a specific of a prompt, but um yeah, it's uh not ideal. And

you know what? I I do want to show you too. Um 20s I showed an or I was working on this. I was trying to make a head shot. Mhm. This did not work well. There's this trend on LinkedIn where it's basically take it says oh take multiple pictures of yourself and then from all angles and and then you know tell it to make it a professional headsh shot. That ain't me. That don't look like me. Uh that don't look like me. I kept telling it a million things to look better. I mean, yeah, you know, is he's your relative. Like you have Yeah, he looks like he could be like my brother or cousin. Yeah, he looks like he could be my cousin, but like that's not necessarily what I was going for. I was looking going from me. And then this one's just

like, whoa. What? I said hyper realistic. I didn't I didn't mean hyper depressed. I mean, this guy looks like this guy does not like work. This is bad. Um, and then this one I was like, "All right, you know, yeah, try try again." And what I ended up getting just was a consistent mildly off, but you know, this first one's okay, I guess. Yeah, it'll get there. It'll get there. I know. Should I share what it did? Sure. Yeah, this this one uh just it added two logos for some reason. Uh but it was able to add the Jatform but the only thing is it actually added a an old Jatform logo very very old Jatform logo like just from ages ago probably like you know uh 10 years ago a version of Jatform logo from like 10 years before but still it was able

to find it somewhere uh somehow it found it something similar and it said it here. Hm. All right. Well, that does feel a little I mean, maybe it's a little quicker. Um $200 a month worth worth it, I guess. Um but overall, man, I think I think the key things to note here are that they are getting better there. The GPT right now is the clear winner from from what everyone's saying. And it doesn't mean it's going to get rid of your graphic designer. It just means that if you don't need a full-fledged one yet, maybe you have the ability to to instead of like using a freelancer, maybe use the AI. And honestly, I can see a lot of people being hired still because they're going to have to tweak the a the components of images. And I think my main excitements though are

the infographics now with this 40 and and like I think that category of stuff is going to get AI generated a lot more now. Very creative stuff. I can definitely still see, no offense to infographic creators, it's not that creative, right? It's text, it's a background, and it's like showcasing of a logo, right? It's it's whatever. But the creative work and I think the human eye, the the the interesting thing that's going to happen in the next year or so as we get more and more AI generated content is, ironically, the unique thing will become human created stuff. Yeah, that's going to be the weird uh I don't know if you you've heard this theory before, but essentially the commodity will become the AI at some point and then the creative inspired work of humans in video and in photo will then actually have some

have like more value because like it's the whole supply demand situation is going on where it's like well we don't have a lot of really like good creative people anymore and sure people don't realize I think it's going to keep getting better. There is going to hit a point in my perspective though with these AI models. It will hit like some sort of diminishing returns to where they're going to cap out, right? And it will just be then limited by the person's ability to I guess express what they're envisioning which will be what is the creative thing at the end of the day, right? the the vision is still going to be the most important component which the AI I just don't see having that ability to work on cuz it's all all of their creativity right to my perspective isn't it just trained on

large data sets of our own as humans information like that what what what it's doing is it's just trying to parrot us right the p the parrot that you talk to never is the one coming up with the ideas. You're the one telling the parrot what to say. And I do think at some point it'll be very very interesting where it's like, okay, we can create stuff with the AI, but the ideas from the humans, you know, will kind of still reign to be the supreme from the creativity side. It just reminds me of uh what Steve Jobs called computers. Uh it says on the bicycle for the brain, like bicycle for the brain uh something like that. And basically, yeah, you're right. It's just like instead of walking, you can bike and then just uh you can go much faster, but the bike cannot

go everywhere like it cannot, you know, you cannot go upstairs, right? It's just you will have to carry it with you, things like that. So, it's just But when you're on a like a straight pull up Yeah. Yeah. I'll pull up the clip. This is actually No, I think you're making a great point. This this is one of the most I think this is one of the most profound he didn't realize how profound this was when he was saying it I don't think but this is actually one of the most profound statements in tech history. I remember uh reading an article when I was about 12 years old. I think it might have been scientific American where they measured the efficiency of locomotion for all these species on planet earth. Uh how many kilo calories did they expend to get from point A to point

B? And the condor one uh came in at the top of the list uh surpassed everything else. And humans came in about a third of the way down the list, which was not such a great showing for the crown of creation. But somebody there had the imagination to test the efficiency of a human riding a bicycle. Human riding a bicycle blew away the condor all the way off the top of the list. And it it made a really big impression on me that we humans are toolbuilders and that we can fashion tools that amplify these inherent abilities that we have to spectacular magnitudes. And so for me, a computer has always been a bicycle of the mind. Uh something that that takes us far beyond our inherent abilities. And uh I think we're just at the early stages of this tool, very early stages, and

we've come only a very short distance and it's still in its formation, but already we've seen enormous changes. I think that's nothing compared to what's coming in the next hundred years. If you think about it right, computers wasn't like just they were bicycle for the mind but uh it wasn't the end. Computers was just another layer. uh and then on top of that layer that came another layer which is the internet right and then on top of that layer and now it's like this AI is coming right and this bicycle or the mind is becoming this really supersonic you know uh rocket for the mind and just you can accomplish so much more but the thing is you still have to know where you are going right you can like just uh you need to know like where you want to go what you want

to do And then then then you can use the bicycle or the rocket to reach there. But if you don't know where you want to go, if you don't have that taste or like if you don't have that creativity to know like what you should be doing like where you want to reach, then it doesn't matter if you have a bike, you will just, you know, look around and, you know, you're not going to know where to go. That's why I feel like it's it's not the end for the designers. It's actually a like a like, you know, they're going to become like 10 times more productive. They they can become 10 times productive if they're if they learn these new AI tools and use them and uh you know uh just take advantage of them. Uh just they can just do so much more.

The same thing applies to what you said about like you know uh things like you know human versus AI, AI becoming commodity and um basically human using AI is now able to do so much more so much more become so much more creative. even the arts and the you know um everything like all the products we use and um all the you know websites we use um everywhere we're going to see like a higher quality of things and people who don't who can't do design are now able to do design but people who are already good designers they are going to be creating things that you know that is not possible right now just they're going to be able to be so much more creative. Uh so I think, you know, I'm I'm really positive about this. Yeah, absolutely. It's going to be it's going

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